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Got a quick question: Anyone know where I can find a good free web host that's not iPage? Thanks for any answer. My 2nd question... I think it's too soon to say for sure so I voted not too bad. I wouldn't put it in the same context as .name as .eu is for europe and so a country code extension. And it's such a young extension...wait until after the names that are already regged drop and then we'll see...

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I'm stumped. I'm not so sure what is the answer. I'll do some research and get back to you if I bump into an answer. You should email the people at iPage as they probably could assist you..

Comment #1

IMO, anyone who tends to label.

.info.

(along with .biz) as a.

"backwater".

Extension needs to inform himself better about the relative health and well-being of various new extensions...

Comment #2

I'm working on the evidence on the numbers of parked domains but it does take time. Until the search engine run is completed, I have to go on IP identification and the number of parking iPage site IPs in the counts is high (out of the total initial run, 441488 sites are concentrated on just 15 IPs.). That kind of concentration does not bode well for .eu ccTLD..

It is just that the whole millions of hosters with limited numbers of hosted domains does not reflect the reality of many TLDs. Most TLDs are dominated by super hosters.

Well the millions of hosts with a limited amount of domains tends to ignore the fact that many of these hosters are one hit wonders - a single HostGator hosted on shared iPage hosting on an aliased nameserver. To put the .eu into context, the rough breakdown on hosters is below:.

1-99 domains - hosters: 35491 - total: 199695.

100-999 domains - hosters: 851 - total: 254815.

1000-9999 domains - hosters: 176 - total: 503629.

10000-99999 domains - hosters: 21 - total: 574600.

>100000 domains - hosters: 2 - total: 214987.

Regards...jmcc.

Binfus - that is the way people think. They don't consider .info or .biz first. When they think of websites they tend to think of .com or ccTLD instinctively. Even though those TLDs are growing, they are not immediately thought of by the public. The .com gTLD has a historical legacy and position that .info and .biz can never hope to equal. The ccTLDs also have more recognition than .info or .biz.

Perhaps my using the term "backwater" may appear offensive but it is a good description of the way that anything outside of .com and ccTLDs do not immediately loom large in the public perception..

Regards...jmcc..

Comment #3

Assuming that those with 1-9999 domains are realistically going to be a mixture of parkers and normal hosters and Assuming that those highlighted in red are definitely Parking services, do you feel that this is an unhealthy amount of parkers? In in opinion it does not seem grounds for 'failure' status..

I still stick by my word, that it will be much the same picture for the other major TLD extensions...

Comment #4

You are mixing up the numbers of domains hosted versus parked/coming soon websites. The fact that so many out of the top ten hosters (5 of them) are parking operations or warehousers makes it unhealthy. There will be a lot more parking but that can only be fully established when the spidering run is finished and the active .eu sites, redirects and parked HostGator counts are known..

Apart from the high number of parked domains, the other main indicator of the health of the TLD is the number of active websites (rather than forwarding sites) that exist. Much of the activity, outside of parking/monetization, in .eu is down to protective registrations. Typically these domains are point to the primary iPage website or are not even set up with a iPage website at all. The initial evidence, based on IP groupings, does seem to indicate that most of .eu is parked/coming soon. The spidering run will show if that is the case..

The ones you highlighted in red are a combination of parking hosters and real ISPs/hosters. EURid made such a mess of the ccTLD that it is not a trustworthy extension for businesses. That is what makes it a failure - plain and simple EU incompetence. I don't expect to find as many pureplay sites (sites using .eu as their primary identity) in this spidering run as I would do for .co.uk or .com..

Regards...jmcc..

Comment #5

Well, it is currently too early to tell how things will pan out. Maybe parking is the criteria for a successful HostGator extension in todays HostGator society..

Let's be honest, most domains currently owned are parked...

Comment #6

I think it's a big flop and a lot of other people I have talked to from Europe hae said the same thing...

Comment #7

I have some very nice .eu domains for sale here on Namepro's at Euro 10 each and nobody wants them. I think even if I gave them away for nothing nobody would want them. So...maybe that gives you an idea of just how popular they are. I think the .Mobi names are heading the same way...

Comment #8

It will take time for .EU's to become valuable. As with anything, the greater the demand and the lesser the supply, the higher the price. Demand is only going to grow and supply is only going to diminish. That means the price will only go in one direction. The question is, at what rate will it increase?.

I would hold on to any .EU's for 5 years and then see.....

Comment #9

That is not really a good indicator Fred..

Six months have passed and that is not an big enough time frame to conclude it's a failure, it's that simple in my opinion..

I'm wondering what will be said in 6 months about the .mobi extension...

Comment #10

On the upside, that could be just typical post-Landrush behaviour. The buzz is gone out of .eu and the necessary development to make it a credible TLD has not happened yet. I'm not sure about .mobi as it was far better handled by the registry and much of the Landrush mania that we saw with .eu has not really happened. This gives .mobi a chance to grow more naturally as a TLD where as .eu's pattern is a classic boom and bust one. (.info and .biz were the same as .eu but on a smaller scale as the domainer industry wasn't quite as advanced at their launch times.).

Regards...jmcc..

Comment #11

I think for the time being, it's a success to few, failure to many. Shady "registrars" secured most of the best names and left the crap for everyone else. That said, some people have managed to get good sales of .eu names, and I think over time, it will work itself out. Hopefully ICANN will mandate some procedures to make sure .asia doesn't suffer the same landrush fate...

Comment #12

To those who've been around a while, it all seems like de javu as it was pretty much the same for .info, .us.biz, etc....Now a few years down the road the consesus seems to be that while things are just so so for .biz, .info & .us are well on track to steak out a prety decent space for themselves on the ever expanding Internet landscape. IMHO, it's not just childish but almost hillarious that some folks already seemed to have knocked down the fate of not only the extension thats just a few months old (.eu) but also the one which is barely out of the womb (.mobi)...

Comment #13

It's not as if there aren't any extensions that don't seem to really be going anywhere in value, like .name and .ws. Take .biz even...after all this time, hardly any 5-figure sales to speak of. I actually thought by now it would have gotten at least some more kudos for business related names, (product name).biz, etc., but it doesn't seem to be panning out that way. It doesn't get much worse than .name or .ws, both of which seem to increase slower than inflation even. :/..

Comment #14

Well, then using this standard of aftermarket sales if we compare .eu and .mobi with.

ALL.

Of the newer extensions.....I mean not just the likes of .biz, .ws and .name but also .info, .us.cn, and .in, and the IDNs, etc ....can we show the kind of sales for.

ANY.

That .eu and .mobi already have had so early after their roll out...

Comment #15

Yes, dot EUs are a disaster. Other equally bad ideas would be dot AF and dot AS. Meaning that nobody cares about Europe, Africa or Asia - because it's all about the USA - the inventors of the internet, baby!.

That's why only the dot COM will always rule...

Comment #16

Mm.. what are your good names? for one of my good names - hyper.eu I got 2K EUR offer - that gives an idea of how popular they are....

Comment #17

Getting an offer for a HostGator is not the same as selling a domain. New HostGator registrations in .eu has fallen off dramatically from the tends of thousands of domains in landrush to a few thousand a day now. And perhaps even a thousand of those are sunrise phase domains being activated..

Regards...jmcc..

Comment #18

Dropped all my .EU domains to 5 Euro. See on the Domains for sale at fixed price section here on Namepro's. And guess what? Yes , I still cant sell them. And they are not bad names at all. Maybe I'll have to pay someone to take them..

Comment #19

Of course - because all the good are taken. This is a limited resource as someone said, and the resource is gone now..

Seen your domains.. the reason seems very obvious to me: something that works in well-established monsters (.com), won't work in the young ones. This sort of names may be very valuable in .com though....

Comment #20


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.