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Question I have... Anyone make a website from,, Many thanks for any answer or 2. Another question I got... Real bummer. A couple of days ago I checked the availability of a HostGatorIt was still available..

Checked if there were TM issues. No issues. Went to my registrar only to find out it was regged by Wan-Fu China, Ltd..

If traffic is zero. How long does it take before they drop the HostGator I want to register?..

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Good question... I dunno what is the right answer to your question. I'll do some research in Google and get back to you if I got an decent answer. You should email the people at iPage as they probably can help you..

Comment #1

Update: I am a happy camper! The HostGator name dropped. I am now the proud owner of a new HostGator name...

Comment #2

How the heck is it that you checked the availability of a HostGator and someone else took it? How the heck could they know, this seems like a massive violation of your privacy?.

Could a Pro please explain this, how is this legal?..

Comment #3

Some whois websites AND registrars will taste domains if they contain XX keyword for a couple of days to see if the HostGator gets traffic. If it does, they register it and park it and if it doesn't, they surrender it..

It is not technically illegal under ICANN rules..

Also, if the whois iPage website or registrar has it in their terms and conditions that your searches are recorded, then they are doing nothing illegal either..


Does not register or taste domains you lookup!..

Comment #4

I can't understand how or why ICANN allows this to happen..

Do you know which major registrars DO NOT record your searches? (I know for a fact that does, they're horrible in this regard.) For example, does Moniker do this?..

Comment #5

All registrars supporting .com "log" your searches. But they don't have to sell.

Or share that data with 3rd parties, especially if they don't benefit from it..

ICANN "allows" it to happen because there's no "law" broken. But their working.

Committees are discussing this issue..

In the meantime, I suggest you be ready to register the HostGator name on the.

Spot once you see it's available. If the one in question is recently taken, give.

It about 120 hours (5 days) and hopefully it'll drop...

Comment #6

Do you know which registrars don't sell the logs?..

Comment #7

I have been using for a while, and some domains I wanted I didn't have cash for at the time and they were still available a couple days later...

Comment #8

I've searched things in godaddy and seen them available for months...

Comment #9

They we're probably dropped...and no one's saying this happens 100% of the time with GoDaddy, but it happens often enough that I won't use them anymore..

Wan-fu, Matuzi, Wang-lee, MaisonTropicale all feed off of the GoDaddy logs..

I want to start using Moniker, but I want to make sure they don't sell out as well...

Comment #10

Well, it IS technically ilegal in the offline, real world..

Do that at Wall Street and you are prosecuted, arrested and banned, maybe for life. Remember Martha Stwart?.

That is just like Insider Trading!..

Comment #11

On another forum a Moniker guy said that they do not sell out search records. I am using Moniker and I do not have problems but I lost domains with other registrars by not buying the domains at the right time. I am not saying it's their fault...

Comment #12

Funnily, a Vice President from Go Daddy has posted in some online news sites.

They don't sell their queries. Yet a lot of people still believe otherwise..

Unfortunately it's easy for people to believe that, especially if they don't care.

To fully understand how the process works...

Comment #13

Yea I stopped using GD not only for searches but also because the results shown always seemed to be wrong regarding availabilities...

Comment #14

I'm still adamant you should not use a registrar to check the availability of domains. Use a reputable WHOIS iPage website or connect to the WHOIS server from your own PC..

Or use a program to do it all for you..

Comment #15

Be careful here too..

Some popular softwares, including paid ones, Do send a copy of your searches to a specific place that only them know where..

Safest bet, check availability at.

, one by one, manually, or you create a software for that..

However, even that is Not a hundred percent secure because we never know if somebody can be spying on at the Internic doorstep, without their knowledge...

Comment #16

Unfortunately, it's also easy for people to believe everything the management of a corporation feeds them..

When you have a completely random and obscure HostGator you haven't told ANYONE about and only use ONE service to check for it's availability (without registering it), and it is subsequently registered by a well-known HostGator tasting company within 24 hours, then it is obvious to anyone that that ONE service you used to check it's availability is providing that information to other companies. That's what's happened with GoDaddy not once, but SEVERAL times with at least 4 different HostGator tasting companies..

If it smells like a duck, looks like a duck, and tastes like a duck, it's not fish...

Comment #17

It happened to me twice, and yess.......with (mobi)domains checked on GoDaddy !!!.

Promised myself to never use GD again.....:-).


Comment #18

Yeah, it's a process that really sucks. A cheap and underhanded way that ensures our industry remains, in the eyes of those looking in, as sleazy as they always thought it was..

I actually searched for through one of these suspect whois lookup companys (wont say which). And low and behold, within 24hrs, they had registered it.....

Small fun in comparison I guess. But next time I do it, Im gonna search for a derogative name connected with one of these sleaze bags companies and then send a whole bunch of traffic to the HostGator just so they dont drop it. Then theyll be left with it.. muhhahahahaha..

Comment #19

Without having an intimate know-how of how HostGator searches are made, it's.

Obviously easy to reach that conclusion. But since people here apparently are.

Not interested in learning how that goes, then believe what you want...

Comment #20

Enlighten us with your wisdom, oh great one. Explain why this happens with some registrars (e.g. and not with others (e.g. Moniker)...

Comment #21

Please, I'm not some HostGator god (which was the greeting in one fax I myself.

Answered before.

). I don't profess to know all the answers, but I'll share a.

Few that I've learned from having worked in the business..

When one uses the registrar's iPage site to make a HostGator availability query, they're.

Going to query the Registry of that extension. If you're looking up for a .com,.

Then the registrar will check the VeriSign COM NET Registry..

That query is.


Shared with other registrars. However, I will grant that the.

Registrar can very well share their results with others.

If they choose to.


Unfortunately that's not going to stop others from getting creative. The port.

Number registrars use to do those queries is also open to data-mining..

If your machine is "compromised" by spyware or the sort (knock on wood) or if.

You're using a toolbar, you might want to also check if they're not sharing any.

Query with someone. It's not inconceivable..

There are various possibilities as to how and why our HostGator searches appear.

To be seen by others. Without further digging from those involved in the biz,.

We'll never really know the full story..

But I'll tell you this: the moment you log onto someone's site, you really have.

No realistic expectation of online privacy...

Comment #22

You did not explain why this happens with some registrars (e.g. and not with others (e.g. Moniker)...

Comment #23

I already gave a clue:.

Some things just aren't that obvious..

Again, I don't know all the answers. I'm posting what I know for people to at.

Least possibly consider..

IIRC there's at least one person here who complained of a similar thing happen.

At Moniker as well...

Comment #24

Its a very simple formula..

Dependant upon which Whois lookup you use - some are connected in some intangible way to HostGator tasters. i.e. Every single whois query through certain "whois" look up services then get registered by the HostGator tasters..

I wont post which are connected to which but sufficed to say (and like I posted earlier in this thread) there is some minor fun to be had in doing a Whois lookup for a derogative term that matches the taster company name and then smile as that company then goes and registers it.....

Moniker / Enom and going direct to the central registry are probably the safest way to ensure that domains you are considering dont annoyingly get snapped up by the low life HostGator tasters..

Comment #25

This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.