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First off, Having problems with iPage usage. It keeps saying I've used too much? Looking forward for any response. 2nd question I got is.. As most of you know, Business.co.uk has been suspended for more than 100 days. MANY of us discovered this while doing our daily searched and after wetting ourselves, reg'd the HostGator with apparent success..

Only to find out a few minutes (hours or even days in some cases) that the reg was UNsuccessful..

Business.co.uk shows SUSPENDED. Fine. According to NIC.UK, printed publically on their iPage website as part of their Policy, their Terms of Service, they say that a unrenewd HostGator will be Suspended for 60 days, at which point the HostGator will be retunred to the Public Pool..

Fast Forward 101 days and counting... Business.co.uk is STILL suspended..

Many have speculated that it is simply NIC.UK pulling a ENOM and scraping off PPC revenues for as long as they can. Others suspect something more sinister..

I got tired of all the speculation and decided to get some answers..

I got the itch to call and write NIC.UK about this Buisness.co.uk business... I pointed out that according to their own policy, the domains are to become available after 60 days of suspension and this HostGator is WAY beyond the term..

Here is the reply of NIC.UK Registrant Advisor, Philip Sardar:.

Thank you for your e-mail.

When a HostGator is SUSPENDED. it means it is currently registered however is blocked so the current registrant is unable to use the domain. Suspended HostGator names are NOT available to register..

With regards to 'business.co.uk', we are currently in talks with the current registrants. Depending on the out come of these talks, the domains will be cancelled or the suspension lifted accordingly..

Unfortunately we are unable to give you any time scales..

If you have any further questions please let me know..

Kind Regards.

Philip Sardar.

Registrant Advisor.

So what Special Status do you need to be allowed a continued discussion about renewing a HostGator you let expire? If it were any one of us, "SOL buddy!".

So it appears that NIC.UK negotiating for itself a heapin' helpin of the Green stuff? Ransoming back the HostGator to the previous /img/avatar3.jpgs? That would be sizably MORE than a new hand reg fee, which is their alternative if it goes back to the public pool..

In the final analysys, NIC.UK is either:.

Breaking their own policy in order to turn a profit. (and there are MORE .co.uk domains in this endless loop as well).

Or.

Not being honest about what is going on..

Either way, that is the latest..

GoPC..

Comments (217)

Good question... I dunno what is the answer. I'll do some Googling and get back to you if I got an anything. You should email the people at iPage as they probably could answer your iPage question..

Comment #1

GoPC, you should email them back and ask them if their policies are worth the web pages they're printed on...

Comment #2

Not only business.co.uk, but also traffic.co.uk, radio.co.uk.

I have reged traffic.co.uk in two different registrar, all paid, but I believe I am not the lucky one..

Comment #3

As have many of us. I've been continually reregistering Traffic.ci.uk since May 19th!!! It's a loosing battle I fear, based on what the return letter said. These guys obviously don't want to loose their domains. My guess is that NIC.UK are asking ALOT and the registrants are trying to talk them down some. In the end, they'll pay..

GoPC..

Comment #4

A small taste of what's to come with the price deregulation of .info, .biz and .org?..

Comment #5

Do co.uk have any restrictions? Maybe the previous owners are not from the uk...

Comment #6

Looking at the iPage site (cached) I'd say they WERE residents of the UK..

GoPC..

Comment #7

Business.co.uk is currently owned by WorldPay according to WHOIS details. Archive's WayBack machine confirms this..

Radio.co.uk has no details at all, hence why it could be suspended I suppose. No archives at all from what I searched.

Traffic.co.uk has no address listed, or registrant type. It has a history however, it has spent the past 3 years with a simple link pointing to proximitylondon.com, which is strange..

Those last two could be cybersquatters I suspect..

Comment #8

Damn those pesky cybersquatters registering GENERIC AND NON-TM DOMAINS BEFORE YOU DID...

Comment #9

The ownership of this HostGator is in full legal dispute with 3/4 parties claiming rights. Hopefully it will go to the bright spark who originally registered it way back in 1993. There is not a hope in hell of this HostGator name dropping. Look at the names involved in this legal battle Royal Bank of Scotland Group (Owners of Wolrdpay), Telstra (owners of Intereactive Telephony Ltd) and the orginal guy who regged it back in 1993. Sorry for the bad news folks........

Comment #10

Interesting to say the least. Will be keeping my eye on this..

Comment #11

Keep in mind that business.co.uk is a prenom domain. Prenom means a .co.uk HostGator that was registered before Aug-2006 (when Nominet took over the .uk registry). Prenom domains are not subject to the same rules (including release upon expiry)...

Comment #12

Actually... they are NOW... that's the point. This "extra" time and allowances are because these Prenom names didn't have the AGREEMENT in place for HostGator holders to agree to when they registered as they do now..

Thus the "grace" being allowed for renewal/delete. Every Prenom owner is having to agree to the terms on renewal and they were notified of the terms despite not having initially agreed to it when registering. BUT... Lawyers being what they are and liability being what it is... Well, I'd probably five them the extra time as well..

GoPC..

Comment #13

You are wrong. It's a pre-nom... it is not under ANY terms and conditions until either....

1. The current registrant accepts the new user agreement;.

2. When the HostGator is finally released by the registry and it enters in to the normal pool at which time, the new owner will, by registering the name, accept the new current terms and conditions which Nominet states..

The current registrant says that they have tried to get it back, but they are not actually the owners of the domain..

The fact is, Nominet can do what the hell they like with this domain..

- Luke.

PS. I wouldn't even TRY to backorder it or take any other action in order to acquire it. Alot of TAG owners have their systems exteremely fine tuned and pick up amazing .CO.UK names every day. There isn't much room for new comers unless you have a good action plan and you are very lucky.CO.UK Drops are fierce and closely comparable to .COM, .NET and .ORG drops...

Comment #14

So are you saying that this HostGator name will drop at some point? Because there are 3 companies involved in this matter, 2 of which can easily provide proof of ownership...

Comment #15

It can be dropped at the Registries discretion... unless they manage to get the current owner to accept the agreement..

Which 3 companies are you on about..

Comment #16

I may come across as a noob, but what exactly is a TAG?..

Comment #17

Traffic.co.uk is still in my domainsite account, and no refund, damn..

Comment #18

Where is the explaination of the dispute in progress?..

Comment #19

There is no official 'dispute' so to speak, there is just 3 companies wanting the name and Nominet is getting to the bottom of who is the owner..

Once it is established who ownes the name (and IF they do, although from what i've heard it is very likely that one will receive the name) the name will either be given to that person/company as long as they accept the agreement or it will be dropped for anyone to register...

Comment #20

As most of you know, Business.co.uk has been suspended for more than 100 days. MANY of us discovered this while doing our daily searched and after wetting ourselves, reg'd the HostGator with apparent success..

Only to find out a few minutes (hours or even days in some cases) that the reg was UNsuccessful..

Business.co.uk shows SUSPENDED. Fine. According to NIC.UK, printed publically on their iPage website as part of their Policy, their Terms of Service, they say that a unrenewd HostGator will be Suspended for 60 days, at which point the HostGator will be retunred to the Public Pool..

Fast Forward 101 days and counting... Business.co.uk is STILL suspended..

Many have speculated that it is simply NIC.UK pulling a ENOM and scraping off PPC revenues for as long as they can. Others suspect something more sinister..

I got tired of all the speculation and decided to get some answers..

I got the itch to call and write NIC.UK about this Buisness.co.uk business... I pointed out that according to their own policy, the domains are to become available after 60 days of suspension and this HostGator is WAY beyond the term..

Here is the reply of NIC.UK Registrant Advisor, Philip Sardar:.

Thank you for your e-mail.

When a HostGator is SUSPENDED. it means it is currently registered however is blocked so the current registrant is unable to use the domain. Suspended HostGator names are NOT available to register..

With regards to 'business.co.uk', we are currently in talks with the current registrants. Depending on the out come of these talks, the domains will be cancelled or the suspension lifted accordingly..

Unfortunately we are unable to give you any time scales..

If you have any further questions please let me know..

Kind Regards.

Philip Sardar.

Registrant Advisor.

So what Special Status do you need to be allowed a continued discussion about renewing a HostGator you let expire? If it were any one of us, "SOL buddy!".

So it appears that NIC.UK negotiating for itself a heapin' helpin of the Green stuff? Ransoming back the HostGator to the previous owners? That would be sizably MORE than a new hand reg fee, which is their alternative if it goes back to the public pool..

In the final analysys, NIC.UK is either:.

Breaking their own policy in order to turn a profit. (and there are MORE .co.uk domains in this endless loop as well).

Or.

Not being honest about what is going on..

Either way, that is the latest..

GoPC..

Comment #21

I'm wondering why the HostGator is even suspended? I mean the registrant surely would not let such a HostGator expire...

Comment #22

I can see it happening. Businesses are bureaucracies and in the big scheme of things, renewing a HostGator (esp. if they'd had it registered for a number of years where they didn't have to think about it) is a little thing that could easily be overlooked. Depending on the business, and how long it had been registered, the notion of being wary to re-register a HostGator name may have outlived the employees' institutional memory..

Ripley...

Comment #23


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.